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Prodegy of very famous thoroughbred horse!!!!?

I have a sone of nephew of the very good race horse and horse of the year, Buckpasser. He looks excatcly like buckpasser did. Very beautiful. But he isn't used to people telling him what to do, nor is he saddlebroke. I love him to death it's just that, I need a schedule for my training him. Really He doen't know anything and was abused before I got him. So I have to start from the ground up. He now likes us when we brush him but freaked out when we had the bareback saddle on him(nothing else). So if someone can give me a website with like a checklist or something. I would love it if I could get him to be a lesson/show horse, because he is so beautiful.

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1. I think tonnes of groundwork, bonding and time out will be needed for him. If you are just patient and reward him and give him lots of fuss he will come round =). Its really upsetting when a fantastic horse like yours gets abused. Its awful. You sound really caring and I know you'll get there in the end. Good luck xx
2. personally i suggest you take him to a problem horse trainer i would go to john lyons or pat parelli this horse has had a tramatic past and he needs someone who really really understands what this horse has gone through in the horses perspective.
3. Hate to break this to you but Buckpasser lines have a reputation for being a bit weird anyway in some peoples opinions. There are certain lines which are more difficult, high strung or have quirks such as Salse, Shirley Heights and Last Tycoon. It certainly doesn't make them untrainable or mean, they just need more time, experienced hands and extra special handling and understanding. Buckpasser himself had an attitude when racing and would be in the lead and then try to stop when another horse went by him. The first thing I would ask is how do you know he was abused? Are you just assuming that based on his behaviour or do you know that for a fact? The next thing to do would get him checked by a vet, have them check his back and I would also have a chiropractor look over him too. Next, make sure his teeth are fine and then you need to start getting him in a good place mentally. Forget even trying to saddle and girth him, he needs to learn to relax, get tied up, groomed, bathed, wear blankets and just have decent ground manners. From there, you want to start round pen work, focus on obeying vocal commands and then progress to long reining him. If you take it really slowly and this could take a couple of months, he should then be in a place to start working wearing a surcingle and then progress to a saddle. I wouldn't even attempt to saddle him until you've worked and perfected the basics. You are not going to be able to do this using a website or DVD and would strongly suggest that you find someone that has experience breaking and schooling TB's to help you. Good luck!
4. I have to agree with Lisa. I had a mare wit Native Dancer Bloodlines, also known for being a bit nuts, and I had to get professional help with her. Even then, she was not safe to ride after a year with this trainer. I gave her to famous dressage rider who loved her looks and moves. It's been several years now and she didn't even succeed as a school horse and was retired. Please get help, you have a special situation. For now, don't mess with tack, just ground work, patience, and trust! Good luck and I hope you succeed!!
5. To add to the already above poster(lisa I believe)there is much more to training a horse than most people think. Because you have a TB its best to do things slowly. I would spend the winter season going over halter work and all your ground work. The morse work on the ground the less chance of your horse having a melt down. Finding a trainer in your area can be accomplished in as many minutes as it took for me to type this out. First start with a call to your local vet or tack store. Ask if anyone in the area trains but with a special interest in TB's. This is how I found my trainer that specializes in arabians. You don't have to spend out a lot of money for someone with experience and most small time trainers will readily come to your house. I find working with a trainer and on my own helped me connect better with my horses. I know a lot of people 'send' their horses away but I don't really like that idea. I want to be the one the horse is connecting with and not somebody else not to mention if the fact you don't know what they are doing with your own horse. A lady I know dod this and ended up with a pleasure horse that stopped like a reining horse and became frightened after a few 'surprises' and ended up having her re-schooled. Just because you have a horse with race horse lines especially a monied horse doesn't guarantee you a good preformance horse or even a sane one. I have a Secertariat related horse with Secertariat still on his papers and let me tell you this, he is anything BUT high preformance or even TB like. He is calm, easy to handle and extremely laid back. He is put together nicely for a trail horse but thats pretty much it. Speed and flowing gaits are NOT his strong suit. Find a trainer, go slow, and don't have expectations.