Cross Breeds

Why do people have such a negative attitude toward hybrid dogs and mixed breeds?

All breeds were created by people via selective breeding of different dogs. What is the difference? Unstopp...(cant read the last of your name and dont care to). What are you basing this on? The poodle varities (goldendoodle, pugle, etc) are usually very carefully mated to produce a dog close the non-poodle variety, but with poodle style hair for allergies. How does that differ from the creation of the Mini Pinscher and the French Bulldog? Unstop again: It sounds like youre speaking of the American Labradoodle which has about a 50/50 chance of having poodle type hair. From there you would breed the ones with that characteristic to produce more (eventually getting something like the Australian Labradoodle which rarely sheds at all, and when it does only small amounts). Just like how your breeds were created! You cant expect it to happen overnight just like it didnt with purebreeds.

Public Comments

  1. I don't think they do. What we're against is puppymilling these designer/hybrid/mixes and selling them for big $$$. http://www.prisonersofgreed.org The shelters are full of these dogs. I LOVE my mutts!
  2. I love my mutt. I think she is smarter than most full blooded dogs. I would recommend getting a mixed breed dog than one of those expensive ones with long pretty names.
  3. With purebreds, there is generally a standard temperment. For example, most chihuahuas are snippy, while most labs are laid back. (Not always true, but bear with me.) With a mixed breed, you never know what you're going to get. Sometimes, you don't even know what size you are going to get, and that's usually important in selecting a dog. (Do you live in an apartment or on a farm, that kind of thing.)
  4. I don't think anyone other than a snob has a problem with them!
  5. Riverbanks is exactly right - only snooty people (who think of their dog as a status symbol) feel this way. With all due respect to dana_osmundson's opinion, you don't necessarily know what you're going to get with purebred dogs, either. There are plenty of disreputable breeders/ puppy mills around that are turning out animals that don't meet breed standards. They just price them like they're top-quality.
  6. Personally I prefer a good ole mutt. Some people want that blood line of a particular breed with papers to go with it. Who knows why. I know that breeders, and show people are pushing for the mutts to disappear, thus they can make $$ by selling their pedigreed pooches. Of course...makes sense. I find that when bloodlines of any particular breed of dogs, cats, horses, or what ever are favoured then you get into inbreeding, and that causes problems, thus the mutts come into the limelight with their mixed blood and are more healthy and may live longer...just my humble opinion of course, but you asked.
  7. The main reason I know is that with a pedigree you can practically guarantee its conduct. But with a cross breed you cannot. Think hard and see if you can remember a case of a pedigree dog attacking a human, apart from police dogs and the like. It is the mixture that makes them unpredictable.
  8. Maybe there isn't a difference. They're just AKC snobs.
  9. I for one don't have a negative attitude towards mixed breeds; some of the best-natured dogs I know are of unknown origins. On the other hand there are certain "designer breeds" that are all the rage and so-called "breeders" can (and do) charge high dollar for them. Labradoodle, goldendoodle, maltipoo, yorkiepoo, morkie, etc. A lot of people like puppy millers jump on the bandwagon and are breeding them just for the $$, without any care as to genetics or if it is a "good" mix (for example, wolf/chow = BAD combo), or what will become of the animals themselves after the fad fades. This is not selective breeding, this is greed. Over 2 million unwanted animals are PTS every year in the US; that is in part what makes this type of "breeding" unconscionable to a lot of people.
  10. People today want to be sure of what they're getting. Since certain breeds are known for different traits, they feel that they have a better chance of getting what they want by buying a specific breed. I know what you mean, though. When I was a kid, the best dog you could have was a good old easy-going mutt.
  11. True, but what you have to look at is our world is so over populated with dogs already. If you can't breed a dog and have it AKC registered, then it doesn't need to be bred. AKC is a superior registry which has the highest standards of breeds in it, so don't screw up the cycle! If you are not wanting a pure bred dog from the AKC then go to your pound, it has the same concept- so many dogs already here, so why create another type of mutt?!?
  12. Snobbery and / or lack of knowledge. Also some feel that specific breed lines are being compromised. Example; Labrador Retrievers - These are generally considered retrieving hunting dogs by design. Many are breeding for show, pets, trials, and other non-hunting fields. Many feel to breed a less than acceptable(?) dog with unsound hunting traits is detrimental to the breed lines.
  13. There are so many AKC snobs out there in the world... & on here esp!!!! Personally I think a lot of the hybrids & mixed breeds are adorable! pure bred Papers don't make the dog! Now just notice all the "thumbs down" I will get now!.... AKC SNOBS???
  14. Mixed breed dogs (ie: A mix of mixes you find at the pound) are merely accidents, a products of strays or uninformed, irresponsible owners. They were not created with a purpose in mind, but they can turn out to be excellent companions, workers, and pets all the same. I am an advocate of adopting these sorts of dogs whenever possible, as far, far too many get euthanized in shelters each and every day. "Hybrid" dogs or designer breeds-- in makeup are different from your average mutt-- except for the fact that some greedy puppy miller or backyard breeder put a price on wonderously "cute" offspring of inferior cross-breeding. Designer breeds are mutts made for profit, and generally, the poorest specimens of canines imaginable.
  15. I don't know anyone with a negative attitude to mixed breed, it is more about the breeding. Mixed breeds are usually caused by irresponsible ownership and in a country with such a huge over-population problem that is what upsets people. It is a fact that mixed breed dogs are better than purebred in terms of health. Due to the in-breeding of purebreds they are effected by a lot more health concerns than a mixed breed. The only draw back is that there is no standard so you have a major surprise when your little 6lb mutt turns into 100lbs. As for hybrids, when I hear that term I thing of the breeding of domestic dogs with wild dogs, which I can't stress how wrong that is. A wolf is a wild animal, even a couple of generation of breeding with a domestic dog will not give you have a pet that looks like a wolf and behaves like a lab. It will give you a dog that still has all its natural instincts and that is frustrated by the limitations put on that behaviours and is therefore unpredictable.
  16. poodles dont shed alot and have dandreff ,which is what people are allergic to ,they were breed for that reason,animal lovers love all dogs but when looking for a certain type you normally have to turn to a breeder,i breed so other people can enjoy the breed as i do
  17. All dogs are wonderful creatures and should not be looked down upon simply because they are mixed. The min Pin is one of the oldest breeds there are he is actually older than the Doberman Pin. The French bulldog is also breed on its own, the only dogs that were bred and are recognized as a breed on there own re Boston terriers, they were bred from an English bulldog and a bull terrier Frenchie cross.
  18. I don't think that most people are against them....Hybrids are also mixed breeds so let's call it what it is. I agree that it's the price of these dogs that is the problem and the fact that people are paying top dollar for mixed is creating more puppy mill dogs. try a shelter first.
  19. I have nothing against an accidental mating of two dogs, accidents do happen but I totally disagree with people putting 2 dogs together because they thought it would be cute to have puppies. The ones that totally piss me off are the ones that put poodles to everything, giving them a cute name and charging the earth for them. Just because they have poodle in them does not make them hyper-allergenic or shed free. Look at the guy on here the other day that had purchased a Beagle x poodle I think he called it a Boogle, it cost him $600 it sheds hair constantly and he has allergies to it. I'd like to bet neither parent was tested for any inheritable problems that these breeds have. Have a good look in the shelters and tell me what you see. I read somewhere the other day that 25% are pure bred dogs and the other 75% are cross breeds. Why? Maybe because people don't know what they are really getting, it looked cute and sounded good but because they didn't research the 2 breeds or sometime 4 or 5 breeds that have gone into their pup, then they wonder why it doesn't fit into their lifestyle. The only thing I see from the so called designer breeders are money hungry thieves. I'm still to meet one that health test their breeding stock, I'm told by them that they don't have any problems. Crap! they still suffer from Hip Dysplasia, elbow Dysplasia, heart problems, kidney problems & eye problems. Yes, all breeds started by crossing one breed with another many centuries ago, but they were done for a purpose, normally working. Give me a good reason why we have all these Poodle cross pups, they say its because they are allergy free, but only a small percentage might get the poodle coat. If you want allergy free buy a Poodle. If you love your Mutts, go to the shelter and save one its full of them. I have owned and loved mutts, but to deliberately mate them when so many are being put to sleep every day makes me sick.
  20. Pretty simple really, ETHICS None of us have a thing against the dog, our objection is of those that would breed them with no reason for doing so besides duping the public inorder to make a profit. There isn't a thing wrong with developing a new breed, provided it is done for the right reasons and by those that know what they are doing. There is even a breed with my last name (Llewellin Setter) Most whateverdoodle breeders (but not all) have absolutlly no concept of genetics, and wouldn't know a good dog if it bit them on the ***(pun intended)
  21. I have one mutt and he is more healthy and playful than any of those "PROVEN" dogs. the only thing i have against the issue is when people breed them on PURPOSE and then stick a wiggly-poo name on it and sell for $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Don't they know they're are already countless poodle mixes and lots more needing homes in shelters? oh and one thing, thanks to the popular demand of purebred dogs,puppy mills have increased. these places offer horrible care to dogs and these "purebred" dogs are NOT bred for their temperment or their appearance SO THERE IS NO POINT IN IT!! these so-called "purebred" dogs do not conform to the AKC standards and therefore are worse than mixes due to the careless breeding. so please, adopt a dog or at least buy one from a certified breeder. please don't support puppymills or backyard breeders.
  22. You answered your own question - All breeds are created by people. People are negligent and ignorant and lazy. People pay an outlandish price for a pup and as soon as it goes into heat they want to get their money back as many times over as possible. People do not have a care as to what happens to the cute little hairballs they created once they're sold off.They don't care about medical problems and unsound temperaments.All they care about is how soon the next heat will come so they can get more money.Who cares how many of these pups ends up spending a life of abuse or neglect.Or how many sit in a shelter or pound waiting for someone to adopt them who will understand their needs. I wonder how we'd like it if people were bred like dogs are.
  23. "All breeds were created by people via selective breeding of different dogs. What is the difference?" I really dislike this excuse. People who use it just don't get it. Because these dogs aren't bred for any other purpose than making money. I'd forgive it if someone was actually trying to create a better herding dog, police dog, sled dog -- you know, a dog with a JOB. But these designer dogs are just money-makers. "Good pets" isn't an acceptable reason...there are plenty of "good pets" sitting in shelters, and the hundreds of purebreds that already exist (in addition to being originally created FOR A REASON) also make "good pets". Yes, the "Labradoodle" was originally created in an attempt to develop a hypo-allergenic guide dog. But, as you say, the chances of getting the "hypo-allergenic" coat (a fallacy in itself, since all dogs shed), is maybe 50-50. SO WHAT IS THE POINT? When "Labradoodle" breeders are consistently working toward 100% allergen-free coats, and not just making money, I'll consider the purpose behind what they're doing...but it appears to me that most are on the bandwagon for the $$, at this point. And, no -- the vast MAJORITY of these "breeders" are using untested dogs from questionable backgrounds. No responsible breeder of a purebred would ever sell a dog to someone looking to cross it with another breed. The guy who "created the Puggle" is a huge puppy-miller in Wisconsin. He has hundreds of dogs living in mesh-bottomed cages, and was fined/suspended by the AKC for failing to pass their inspections -- which is why he uses the "Puppy Mill" registries now (i.e. ConKC, Hybrid Club, etc.). Look it up. These dogs were developed out of greed. "Hybrid" is a term used by the ignorant, BTW -- you can't create a "hybrid" with two animals of the same species. ADDED: "The poodle varities (goldendoodle, pugle, etc) are usually very carefully mated to produce a dog close the non-poodle variety, but with poodle style hair for allergies." Yeah, that Poodle is the "magic wand" that immediately creates a non-shedding dog -- NOT. You can't predict how well that trait will pass in a mixed breed dog, and the HUGE preponderance of evidence shows that it does not consistently do so. Also, if by "pugle" you mean "Puggle", they have no Poodle in them. There is no "careful mating" that goes into these dogs -- find a Poodle, find a (whatever other breed), breed them and sell the puppies. The End.
  24. I have no problems with mixed breeds. It's when people intentionally breed a mixed litter and then make fantastic claims about them in order to sell them for a ridiculous amount. The breeds we have today are not the result of mixing two different breeds. Centuries (and longer) ago people sought out desired traits and bred the dogs because of those traits. The breeds we have today are the results of carefully selective breeding over generations. When you have a first generation mix, you literally have no idea what you are going to end up with because they do not produce the same results every time. Did you ever consider there is a reason why reputable breeders will not sell their pups to someone who is interested in creating a "hybrid" litter?
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